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Putin accuses Poland of colluding with Hitler in the Second World War


Vladimir Putin has accused Poland of being antisemitic and colluding with Adolf Hitler, in response to a European resolution that partly blames the Soviet Union for the Second World War.

Read more here:  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-poland-hitler-nazis-antisemitism-second-world-war-a9260011.html

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We all are now aware of Putin’s “Christmas present” for Poles.
The timing seemed perfect since IPN was on Christmas break 🙂.

Putin’s words are so easily debunked. It took me about an hour to look into Lipski’s papers – 68 publications – to find the entire passage/get the context of the convo.

The original papers can be found at the Pilsudzkis institute in Chicago/New York/London archive, but the book is available online free of charge.

So what did Lipski say exactly? What is the context? What was the Polish government attitude towards ”Jewish Problem”?? In Germany?

Reading the entire dossier, one gets the feeling – the Polish government PROTESTED against persecution of the Jews in Germany. At the same time, the fate of German Jews seems not the most important, in the scope of continuous tensions between Polish/German relations.

During the 30s, The Polish government entertained the idea of supporting Jewish immigration to the Jewish state, created by Western Powers/League of Nations.

Out of many ideas, Palestine and Madagascar, put forth by the French Government, seemed most promising. Around 30% of Jews who found themselves within the borders of the newly created Polish State, (Perhaps 1.2 milion were Russified Jews) supported the idea of immigrating to Palestine – or another Jewish homeland. The socialist bund, the communist Kombund, The Hassidics (in general) and other religious groups Like AGUDA (in general) stood against mass immigration.

The Polish government supported/trained and provided loans, military equipment to Irgun/Polaje, Syjon/Beitar/Zabotynski/Begin led groups of Zionists. Polish left especially PPS, KPP and PSL stood against Jewish immigration (in general).

The entire Polish center-right, from the extreme religious /economic antisemites Falangas (who also were some of the most radical nationalists) to other ONR fractions (younger, older ABC) through Ruch Narodowy, Endeks, Sanacja etc. supported some form of immigration for Zionist Groups formed around the Jewish right – IE Beitar.

There are about 20 notes related directly to Jews within Lipski’s 32-39 Collection. Most of them pretend to the situation of German Jews under the National/Socialist Rule and the Polish government’s opinion regarding their treatment.

In regards to Lipski’s words quoted by Putin.

Lipski’s words are the response to Hitlers lose IDEA of creating Jewish homeland for immigration. Something which was supported NOT only by the Polish right, but by the Jewish Right centered around Beitar.

Lipski himself expected some heated reaction for ”building monument” words. This is why there is an explanation in right below the note. ( in the 68 publication)

The most important is to understand the time frame when this conversation took place. No one – virtually no one in the world – could have predicted WWII nor the genocide of the Jews. The conversation took place at the time of German Corridor/Danzing demands during Polish/German – None aggression – treaty extension talks.

It would be interesting to see how Poland/Jewish circles would have judged Hitler today, had he succeeded in leading the creation of Jewish homeland.

Was he even Serious?

Was Lipski’s answer serious or half-serious, or spoken as dinner banter?

Was the German idea and Polish idea of creating Jewish homeland different? (I assume Lipski thought about it somewhat differently).

In all, we should go beyond one single note to find out if Lipski was indeed this horrific ”antisemitic Pig” as portrayed by Putin.

So let’s examine.

Out of 20 or so notes regarding Jews – 14 pretend to Lipski’. In 12 Lipski directly defends German Jews/protesting their treatment in Germany.

Lipski was a Polish aristocrat whose values stood above all. Following his farewell with Goebbels, he returned to Warsaw, only to volunteer for the Polish forces forming in France 1940. Nothing strange there – except for the fact he was 45 years old.

The drive to fight the German Nazis must have been greater than his physical abilities. I suspect he used his connections to get through the physical examination, to enter boot camp in Normandy. He – along with his Polish division fought in the avant-garde of the French army (why are the Polish divisions in France always guard the rear? Shouldn’t it be the French divisions? What a frivolous way to use the Polish soldiers by the French.

– Coincidentally 125 years before Poles also guarded the French retreat from Moscow

– Coincidentally it was Prince Poniatowski who also drowned in the Elstera, one year later, during the battle of Lipsk, defending French rear – ( ironic? )

Following the collapse of the front – Lipski’s division did not capitulate, but rather dissolved into smaller groups trying to make it for the ports. Lipski spend nearly a month trying to break through German forces guarding the north, finally making it to England. Several awards waited for him there. He spent the rest of the war working for the Sikorski government, having direct knowledge of Zegota/Lados/Pilecki and Karski’s actions.

Rabid antisemitism simply doesn’t fit this man’s actions/character.

There is no doubt – Putin as former KGB agent is perhaps trying to manipulate Lipski’s words into another, anti polish historically manipulative, political campaign against Poland.

This is a directly connected attempt to cover up the fact, that it was the Soviet Union  directly collaborating with Hitler on invading Poland and thus DIRECTLY adding to its devastating defeat.

APPARENTLY Mr. Putin’s concern for the Jews ends with these who supported the Soviet Union – these who didn’t – ended up with a bullet and got buried in Katyn, or went on the extended/ultimately deadly vacation in the Siberian Mines.

What comes next? Poland’s reaction undoubtedly – but more interestingly the reaction coming from Israel. What will it be and what is Putin hoping for?

One may Judge Lipski on more than one sentence; conveniently to their ‘own’ truth. Irresponsible? Maybe, contextual and diplomatic, who knows, but viciously antisemitic?  –  I highly doubt it. There were and always will be many jokes about Jews.

Obviously Putin for some reason has lost his good sense of humor lately and I wonder why …?

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In the decade of 1944-1954, international scum threw 24.3 million Poles: from infants to the elderly onto their knees , because that many had survived after the German-Soviet war hecatomb.

Post-occupation squadrons of terror, 100 percent commanded by Jews, murdered over 150,000 Poles, that what is officially known…


Hitler’s executioners were followed by the Soviet executioners of jewish origin, such: Berman, Fejgin, “Światły”, “Romkowski”, Humer, and Brystygierowa and many more.

When Hitler’s main executioners were hung in the west, thousands of Polish soldiers, war heroes and post-war uprising patriots were shot in post-war occupied Poland by the Soviet zionists, which Mr. Putin seem to ignore, although had admitted himself about the jewish dominance in Soviet administrations and KGB.

But not one of the post-war Jewish executioners was ever tried and punished.

Różański, Berman, Romkowski, Fejgin, Humer and hundreds of others lived to see old age. They were buried in the roar of salute guns and drums. They were often buried on the anonymous graves of their victims, so that even after their death the murderers would be held above their victims.

Luna Brystygier, the Deputy of the 5th MBP, a sadist, used to beat her prisoners and distinguished some of them by slamming their testicles in a drawer. This jewish female monster lived to a peaceful old age harassed by no one for her crimes of 1945-54.
Sadist, Salomon Morel, the head of the torture chamber in Świętochłowice, ordered the prisoners to lie down on top of each other in alternating layers, one and a half meters high. After 1956, he lived peacefully in Katowice and after 30 years of sluggish “investigation” initiated by the prosecutor’s office, he was warned by his ‘brothers’ and escaped to Israel, where he was receiving 8-9 thousand PLN of monthly retirement from the Judeo-bolshevik, so-called ‘Polish’ government !

Neither Germany nor the  Soviet Russia were made responsible for their crimes of the Second World War on the Polish nation. The difference between the censuses in 1938 and 1946 was 11 million Polish citizens: 35.3 million (1938) and 24.3 million (1946).

Both invaders committed horrific war crimes and total plunder of Polish national wealth. Neither of the invaders paid any compensation. If anyone deserve restitution and compensation it is Poland and Poles !!!!

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Updated:

Even Germany admits it. “FAZ” on Putin’s words: “Blaming Poland seems unreasonable and indecent – An attempt to blame Poland seems to be lacking in moderation and indecent” – writes Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, commenting on the outrageous words of Vladimir Putin. ( https://polandin.com/…/german-daily-calls-putins… )
“Justifying the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact dominated Vladimir Putn’s annual press conference in Moscow last week, the meeting of the Commonwealth of Independent States in St. Petersburg one day later, and a meeting at the Ministry of Defense on Tuesday.” – resembles “FAZ”.
“Russian authorities are also criticized. A good five years ago they changed their previous official position, assigning the West responsibility for the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and Poland – a blame for World War II.” – we read.
According to the German newspaper, Putin’s words are evidence of a lack of “moderation” and are “indecent.” ….
The newspaper explains what plan is behind the behavior of the President of Russia.
“Putin’s basic idea is to prohibit the West from setting the borders of such countries under the cover of international law. … Some speculate that this is a new revision regarding Belarus, which is undergoing difficult negotiations on deeper integration.” – we read.
It also announces further historical problems that we will witness on the 75th anniversary of the end of the war.
“The scandal shows that in the coming anniversary year (in May the 75th anniversary of the end of World War II will be celebrated) a new dispute can be expected.” – German journalists write.

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Putin obviously has an issue with the fact, that the Soviet Union has frequently been accused of carving Poland up together with Nazi Germany as a result of its pact of non-aggression with Hitler (known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact).

In September 1939, the Polish Republic was invaded first by Hitler and two weeks later by Stalin, with Germany and the Soviet Union annexing the whole of the country between them.

The USSR’s victory in World War Two is one of the most venerated pillars of state ideology, and more than 70 years on it is still celebrated with much fanfare and bombast every year. It is also a key way for President Putin to legitimise himself and his expansionist foreign policy as a successor to the Soviet empire. So the Kremlin sees any criticism of what is known in Russia as the Great Victory as an attack on itself.

None of which is, of course, reason enough for Poland to accept the accusations, which it has described as “false narratives”.

They are a highly sensitive subject in Poland, which outlawed suggestions of complicity in Nazi war crimes in 2018. Following an outcry, the law was softened to make them a civil, not a criminal offence. ( https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50918434)

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Institute of National Remembrance counters Putin’s accusations against Poland

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US Holocaust Memorial Museum Please add suffering of the Polish people
8 hrs ·

In every fairy tale there is a bit of truth, even with Putin, except that I would not agree to call ambassador Lipski a pig, it is not fitting for President Putin, who should have broader horizons and greater stoicism, as a former KGB employee, who knew and knows many things.

So, Karski did similar things as Lipski before the war.

I quote from an interview with the director of the film “Karski and the rulers of humanity”, Sławomir Grunberg, of Polish-Jewish origin.

“Did he want to be a spy?

He wanted to. He wanted to be an emissary of the Polish underground to the world. Already before the war, he worked at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

What did he do?

You won’t believe me. I didn’t believe it either. He worked in the Fifth Consular Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which dealt with the topic of solving the Jewish problem in Poland, and developing the action of sending Jews to Madagascar.

It’s a myth.

No, there are documents. The Polish government was involved in finding a place for Jews in the world. Even the Polish delegation to went to this Madagascar. In 1937, I think, the French also sent their delegation there. They wanted to send their Jews there”.

Source from Polish article:

” The US Jews ignored the Holocaust; They were afraid for their fortunes… ?

Churchill, Pius XII, Roosevelt and influential American Jews are complicit in the Holocaust. They heard from Jan Karski about the extermination of Jews and did nothing – says Sławomir Grünberg, director of the film “Karski and the rulers of humanity.”

” …..  Besides, in various parts of the world thousands of people are now being raped, tortured, killed and the greats of this world are also doing nothing. They don’t because they have no interest in it.…”

https://www.gazetaprawna.pl/artykuly/867451,rezyser-filmu-karski-i-wladcy-ludzkosci-zydzi-z-usa-nie-reagowali-na-holocaust-bali-sie-o-fortuny.html

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Statement by the Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki

The 20th century brought the world inconceivable suffering and the death of hundreds of millions of people killed in the name of sick, totalitarian ideologies. The death toll of Nazism, fascism and communism is obvious for people of our generation. It is also obvious who is responsible for those crimes – and whose pact started World War II, the most murderous conflict in the history of humankind.

More here:

https://www.premier.gov.pl/en/news/news/statement-by-the-prime-minister-of-poland-mateusz-morawiecki.html

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